GUEST PODCAST: Ed-Technical Season 2 Episode 9

This season Libby Hills from the Jacobs Foundation and AI researcher Owen Henkel continue to speak with leading researchers, practitioners and educators on the Ed-Technical podcast series about the cutting edge of AI in education. They will break down complex AI concepts into non-technical insights to better understand what the research says and help educators sift the useful insights from the AI hype. 

This episode is the second in our three-part mini-series with Google, where we find out how one of the world’s largest tech companies developed a family of large language models specifically for education, called LearnLM. This instalment focuses on the technical and conceptual groundwork behind LearnLM. Libby and Owen speak to three expert guests from across Google, including DeepMind, who are heavily involved in developing LearnLM. 

One of the problems with out-of-the-box large language models is that they’re designed to be helpful assistants, not teachers. Google was interested in developing a large language model better suited to educational tasks, that others might use as a starting point for education products. In this episode, members of the Google team talk about how they approached this, and why some of the subtleties of good teaching makes this an especially tricky undertaking!

They describe the under-the-hood processes that turn a generic large language model into something more attuned to educational needs. Libby and Owen explore how Google’s teams approached fine-tuning to equip LearnLM with pedagogical behaviours that can’t be achieved by prompt engineering alone. This episode offers a rare look at the rigorous, iterative, and multidisciplinary effort it takes to reshape a general-purpose AI into a tool that has the potential to support learning.

Stay tuned for our next episode in this mini-series, where Libby and Owen  take a step back and look at how to define tutoring and assess the extent to which an AI tool is delivering. 

Part one in this mini-series
How is Google engaging with AI and education?

Team biographies 

Muktha Ananda is Engineering leader, Learning and Education @Google.  Muktha has applied AI to a variety of domains such as gaming, search, social/professional networks and online advertisement and most recently education and learning. Some believe in making AI smarter. Muktha’s life’s work has been about making people smarter using AI. It has been about demystifying complex things that people encounter on a regular basis. A lot of his work is around building platforms, especially knowledge graphs. At Google Muktha’s team builds horizontal AI technologies for learning which can be used across surfaces like Search, Gemini, Classroom, and YouTube. Muktha also works on Gemini Learning. The team launched Learning Coach, is the first tutor-like experience on Gemini.

Markus Kunesch is a Staff Research Engineer at Google DeepMind and tech lead of the AI for Education research programme. His work is focused on generative AI, AI for Education, and AI ethics, with a particular interest in translating social science research into new evaluations and modeling approaches. Before embarking on AI research, Markus completed a PhD in black hole physics.

Irina Jurenka is a Research Lead at Google DeepMind, where she works with a multidisciplinary team of research scientists and engineers to advance Generative AI capabilities towards the goal of making quality education more universally accessible. Before this, she worked on improving reasoning in language models, and understanding what makes a “good” representation to support intelligence by fusing together ideas from machine learning, neuroscience and physics. Before joining DeepMind, Irina was a British Psychological Society Undergraduate Award winner for her achievements as an Experimental Psychology student at Westminster University. This was followed by a DPhil at the Oxford Center for Computational Neuroscience and Artificial Intelligence, where she focused on understanding the computational principles underlying speech processing in the auditory brain. During her DPhil, Irina also worked on developing poker AI, applying machine learning in the finance sector, and working on speech recognition at Google Research.

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The LearnLM API

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